Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 099 - The One With Our First Call In Patron

September 30, 2016

In This Week’s Show cartoon cheerleaders #askchristians before suing web based raki-pastors selling trans wedding sites.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Chin (Mayandwarf god who introduced homoerotic relationships to nobles, hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that “backwards” spelled wrong is “Gfardnups”

Jim’s Actual Lesson

Trump calls for “one nation under one God serving one American flag.”

Pop quiz: What political party had the slogan: “One people, one country, one leader!”?

Hint: “Ich weiss deise Antwort!”

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

The president beers from Sick and Twisted Brewery in SD

Provided by: RW

Never tell a lie porter - Washington - Jim

  • Jim: 7
  • Aaron: 8
  • Steve: 5
  • Shea: 2

Declaration of IPA - Jefferson - Shea

  • Jim: 5
  • Aaron: 8
  • Steve: 4
  • Shea: 2

Big Stick Lemon Grass Mint Blend Ale - Roosevelt - Aaron

  • Jim: 5
  • Aaron: 8
  • Steve: 4
  • Shea: 1

Honest Abe Red Ale - Lincoln - Steve

  • Jim: 6
  • Aaron: 8
  • Steve: 5
  • Shea: 2

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Ok everyone, our next show is the 100th special - we’re still not 100% sure what that means yet, but it does leave you about 100 hours to get your voicemail into us before we start recording - so get on it!

Perhaps most importantly, new patron Andi is just in time to get this and our 100th special on Patreon! Which is great, because those shows typically run a third longer and include a unique story - sometimes two! Worth a buck?

We think so and so does Andi!

We also got a fantastic iTunes review!

Great even for non-alcoholics!
by: CokeSux (United States)

I love everything about this show. I also don’t drink but it is a very educational show when it comes to being an alcoholic. I give this show a 10 out of 5

Jim is back to help us drink beers! Yay! 

Jim is so awesome and we miss him so much, we should all buy him drinks and send him naughty pictures that will make him smile.


Thanks so much :)

If you want to leave us a voicemail for the 100th episode there's still time (well... Two-ish days) so call us maybe at (513) 760–0463

We are greatly saddened by the news that Monty Python’s Terry Jones has been diagnosed with primary progressive aphasia, a variant of frontotemporal dementia. “This illness affects his ability to communicate and he is no longer able to give interviews. Terry is proud and honored to be recognized in this way and is looking forward to the celebrations.” - http://bit.ly/2cEY4vZ

Followup: Pastor Steven Anderson Deported from Botswana After Advocating for the Execution of Gay People - http://bit.ly/2dhKNHx

Steve: Today my wife said that some of my daughter’s friends had to end the sleepover early this morning because they had to go see Sunday Santa Clause. I was laughing out loud at that.

Did anyone catch Jim’s extra line in the show notes? See… we shared the entire W4W Show Notes folder with him some time ago and every once in a while he uses his powers for evil ;) - Jim?

Speaking of show notes we should say thanks to listener Johan @johanges


NC Teacher Suspended for 10 Days After Stepping on Flag During Lesson on First Amendment Rightshttp://bit.ly/2cEXMVY

  • Lee Francis, Teacher at Massey Hill Classical High School, was suspended recently
  • He was teaching a lesson about the recent BLM protests doing a lesson on the Texas vs Johnson case from 1989 which overturned the ban on desecrating the flag
  • To demonstrate his point he stepped on a US Flag three times
  • Two students walked out with the crumpled flag and took it to the principal's office
  • Francis was perfectly okay with their reaction, saying, “… this is exactly what I teach: You don’t teach kids how to think or what to think; you teach them to go their own path,” he said. “If they feel so convicted that this is their cause they’re going to stand for, I don’t blame them. It’s an upper-level school for those who aspire to go to college and in that regard, we have rigor and expectations, so I treat them as such.”
  • He added, “Not only was the demonstration warranted and justified based on the court, it’s warranted and justified in the rights we have. This is the law of the land upheld by the highest court. Freedom of speech is not just defined verbally by something you say or write down on paper, but something that can also be a physical action.”
  • School administration didn’t agree and first put him on paid admin leave, then suspended him w/o pay for 10 days.

God-Lovin’ Church Going Fucker’s Didn’t Report Child-Rapist Pastor http://bit.ly/2cEXdLW

  • The pastor of Thornton, Colorado “Agape Bible Church” raped a 12 yo girl from the church
  • This is, unfortunately, not too surprising to us given our typical topics, but what is even more terrible is the fact that church officials knew about the assault and did nothing.
  • The arrest documents stated that both the head Pastor Darrell Ferguson and the girl's adoptive parents agreed that it would be best to not go to the police because they were concerned about what would happen to Wyatt.
  • They thought that biblical counseling would be sufficient to fix the problem and they were concerned about what would happen to Wyatt.
  • Police learned about the abuse because another parishioner was disgusted by the church’s reaction.

More News Of The Pious: Nahed Hattar Murdered For Posting A Cartoon On Facebookhttp://bit.ly/2dhL2m6

  • The Jordanian writer and atheist were assassinated in Amman because he posted a cartoon on Facebook making fun of Muslim extremists (see show notes)
  • He was on his way to the Supreme Court for a hearing regarding charges of offending Islam when he was killed by Riad Abdullah, a local imam
  • After his facebook post was widely criticized he removed the image and deactivated his FB account and issued an apology stating the image “mocks ISIS terrorists and their concept of heaven.”
  • Hypocritical Jordanian govt. a spokesman said they would hold the perpetrator to justice saying, “the government will respond with an iron fist to anyone who uses this incident as an opportunity to spread hate speech in society.”

This Week’s Stories

Shea’s Story

New idea to cure my blindness…

A Utah Woman Is Running a “Christ-Centered Energy Healing” Business To Cure You of Your Money - http://bit.ly/2cEYhiL - http://bit.ly/2cEX8bd

  • Tammy Ward and her “Christ-centered energy healing” business — it’ll cost you.
  • Platinum - 25K / a
  • Gold - 14K / 6 months (28K / a)
  • Silver - 8K / 3 months (32K / a)
  • Don’t worry, it works!
  • “I wanted to make sure it wasn’t like woo woo, voo doo, you know,” Ward said. “I just didn’t know.”
  • She said God answered her, telling her to not only pursue that healing for herself, but to teach it to others.
  • This isn’t a doctor’s office. Johnson is getting ready to perform Reiki -– a form of alternative medicine focused on energy.
  • “I’m always hoping that Christ will come to assist in the healing,” “I feel duty-bound –- literally duty-bound –- to share this with other people,” Ward said.
  • “Heavenly Father told me that this is not just for the people of the LDS church,” Ward said. “This is for all of his children.”
  • “People who have, who are painting pictures of Christ, should they just automatically do artwork for everyone for free? They have a picture of Christ, it has Christ in the picture. What about people who are songwriters or singers who are writing songs about Jesus? Should they instantly and suddenly and for forever more make their songs free?” said Ward. “I don’t think it’s any different.”
  • Ward added she’s “prayed to know if this is OK with Heavenly Father, and I’ve been told that it is.”
  • LDS:
  • “We urge Church members to be cautious about participating in any group that promises-in exchange for money-miraculous healings or that claims to have special methods for accessing healing power outside of properly ordained priesthood holders,” said church spokesman Eric Hawkins.

Patreon Story

MN Christians want transgender people to before use the bathroom - http://bit.ly/2cEXdvu

  • Minnesotans are the face of a new campaign by a national network of anti-LGBTQ organizations. The campaign, askmefirst, features Christians imploring schools, businesses, and “transgender activists” to ask them for permission before allowing transgender people to use the bathroom.
  • The Ask Me First campaign was developed by the Family Policy Alliance — formerly called Citizenlink — which provides a network of financial and political assistance for Family Policy Councils throughout the United States including the Minnesota Family Council.
  • The latter sent out an email last week stating:
  • Ask Me First provides women an opportunity to share their real life stories in the hope that other women and families nationwide will have courage to speak up for common sense safety and privacy policies – in public school restrooms, locker rooms, housing, government buildings, on sports teams, etc.
  • Their stories are also meant to send clear messages to school administrators and legislators that there are serious consequences for moms, daughters, students, athletes, sexual abuse survivors and businesswomen when men are allowed to access women’s private facilities!

Jim’s Story

Christian business woman suing for right to discriminate against LGBTQ clients - http://bit.ly/2cEXyOB

  • 62-page suit
  • Lorie is also a Christian who believes that God has called her to use her talents and her company in a way that honors Him.
  • Because of her religious beliefs and her desire to affect the current cultural narrative regarding marriage that contradicts those beliefs, Lorie wants to use her talents and the expressive platform she has in 303 Creative to celebrate and promote God’s design for marriage as an institution between one man and one woman.
  • Lorie believes that God is calling her to promote and celebrate His design for marriage by designing and creating custom wedding websites for weddings between one man and one woman only.
  • As part of discharging her religious duty, Lorie also desires to explain her religious beliefs about marriage on her website and in communications with prospective clients, including why those beliefs prevent her from designing websites celebrating and promoting same-sex weddings.”
  • But the big bad law won’t let her
  • Identification of plaintiffs
  • Plaintiff Lorie Smith is an evangelical Christian.
  • She is a resident of the State of Colorado and a citizen of the United States of America.
  • She is also the sole member-owner of Plaintiff 303 Creative LLC.
  • 303Creative is a for-profit limited liability company organized under Colorado law.
  • 303 Creative’s principal place of business is located in Colorado.
  • The first provision provides that it is unlawful for a person to do the following:
  • … directly or indirectly, to publish, circulate, issue, display, post, or mail any written, electronic, or printed communication, notice, or advertisement that indicates that the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations of a place of public accommodation will be refused, withheld from, or denied an individual or that an individual’s patronage or presence at a place of public accommodation is unwelcome, objectionable, unacceptable, or undesirable because of disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry.
  • A “place of public accommodation” includes “any place of business engaged in any sales to the public and any place offering services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations to the public, including but not limited to any business offering wholesale or retail sales to the public.” Colo. Rev. Stat. § 24–34–601(1).
  • This civil rights action raises federal questions under the United States Constitution, particularly the First and Fourteenth Amendments, and the Civil Rights Act of 1871, 42 U.S.C. § 1983.
  • No shit!
  • Section on Lorie and her faith
  • Although she is a daughter, a wife, and a mother, Lorie identifies first and foremost as a Christian—a follower of Jesus Christ.
  • In addition to attending church and Bible study weekly, Lorie volunteers as an instructor in her church’s ministry program for toddlers, leads multiple women’s ministry events, and handles all of her church’s print and electronic marketing and website outreach.
  • Lorie’s religious beliefs are central to her identity, her understanding of existence, and her conception of her personal dignity and autonomy.
  • As a Christian, Lorie believes that her life is not her own, but that it belongs to God (1 Corinthians 6:19–20) and that He has called her to live a life free from sin (Romans 6:12–13).to
  • Lorie also believes that everything she does—personally and professionally—should be done in a manner that glorifies God. (1 Corinthians 10:31; 2 Corinthians 5:15; Colossians 3:17; 1 Peter 4:11.)
  • More biblical citations than legal!
  • Lorie has “sole discretion,” there are plenty of other places they can go, she’s in close contact with clients (she might have to talk to icky gays), she considers everything like color/font/etc, she will share biblical truths with couples, people would know we designed it
  • The draft website says “I firmly believe that God is calling me to this work. Why? I am personally convicted that He wants me – during these uncertain times for those who believe in biblical marriage – to shine His light and not stay silent. He is calling me to stand up for my faith, to explain His true story about marriage, and to use the talents and business He gave me to publicly proclaim and celebrate His design for marriage as a life-long union between one man and one woman. These same religious convictions that motivate me also prevent me from creating websites promoting and celebrating ideas or messages that violate my beliefs, so I will not be able to create websites for same-sex marriages or any other marriage that is not between one man and one woman. Doing that would compromise my Christian witness and tell a story about a marriage that contradicts God’s true story of marriage – the very story He is calling me to promote.”
  • Other businesses got to support marriage
  • But they don’t get to deny services to individuals who didn’t!
  • Free speech, content/viewpoint discriminatory, free association, surrendering rights, free exercise of religion, due process, equal protection clause,
  • Religious liberty and racial discrimination
  • Bob Jones University in the 70’s and 80’s
  • Amish and social security tax

Next Week’s Beer

Aunt Sally | Lagunitas Brewing Company

Faith In Humanity Restored

From Chicago!? Who knew!

Little Village paleta vendor given over $380K from GoFundMe campaign

An 89-year-old paleta vendor in Little Village who returned to work after his daughter died in order to earn a living and support his grandchildren was received more than $380,000 from a record-setting GoFundMe campaign - http://abc7.ws/2cEXmPx

Bonus Cat Video


Homemade Vegetarian Spaghetti Sauce


  • 1 Tube of Soyrizo
  • 1 or 2 tablespoons extra-virgin olive oil to Sauté
  • 2 onions (large, roughly chopped or cut into thick half rings)
  • 1 head garlic, divided (minced)
  • 1 small can slice / diced olives (more if you like)
  • Sliced baby Portobello mushrooms, to taste but I usually add a lot
  • 12 ounces tomato paste
  • 30 ounces diced tomatoes or 6 hand crushed tomatoes
  • 1/4 cup sugar
  • 4 bay leaves
  • 4 tablespoons dried oregano
  • 4 tablespoons dried basil, garnish with fresh basil if desired
  • 2 teaspoon salt
  • 1 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes
  • Cracked black pepper (fresh, to taste)


  1. Heat oil in large frying pan or wok until nearly smoking.
  2. Add mushrooms and onions, cook until mushrooms are browning and onions become clear and fragrant.
  3. Add half:
    1. Minced garlic
    2. Dried oregano
    3. Dried basil
  4. Add all:
    1. Red pepper flakes
    2. Salt
  5. Sauté until herbs are fragrant.
  6. Add Soyrizo, olives and remaining spices.
  7. Sauté until Soyrizo is thoroughly cooked and all ingredients are well mixed.
  8. Add remaining ingredients and sautéed mixture to slow cooker on high.
  9. Once sauce is bubbling reduce heat to medium and slow cook until dinner. My suggestion is a minimum of 1 hour.

Remember to taste frequently and add more salt, pepper, garlic, basil or sugar (to cut acidity) as desired.

What you get should be a thick and chunky Spaghetti sauce that everyone will love!

Socials & Info

Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 098 - The One Where We Prove Our Expertise…

September 23, 2016

This week’s show Ken Hamm sues the Ghanan demons that made him vape that retired cops cum at an Apple store.

It's also nearly 30 minutes longer, with two extra stories if you get the patron cut at Patreon.com/W4W

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Zoroaster (Persian founder of Zoroastrianism) hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the Swordfish has very few predators to worry about in the wild, except for the seldom seen Penfish which is said to be mightier. 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

Did you know that Jainism (also know as Jain Dharma) is an ancient Indian religion still followed today by 4–6 million people? Its central tenet is non-violence and love towards all living things. 

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Pliny the Elder | Russian River Brewing Co (California)

Donated By: Chad!

  • BA Link: http://bit.ly/2cdJawu
  • BA Rating: 100
  • Style: Imperial/Double IPA
  • ABV: 8%
  • Aaron: 10
  • Jenn: 9
  • Shea: 10
  • Steve: 7

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Jim is so awesome and we miss him so much, we should all buy him drinks and send him naughty pictures that will make him smile. 

Several attacks of note in the US in the last couple of days that merit a mention. It’s been a bad weekend in that respect.

Eight people knifed in St. Cloud, MN mall (none dead except self-proclaimed ISIS attacker) Pipe bomb went off in New Jersey on 5K run route. Nobody hurt. Race canceled. The explosion in New York City’s Chelsea neighborhood injured 29 people and another unexploded device found nearby.


Also, it’s Eid in Dhaka. Eid is the feast that marks the end of Ramadan. It’s also a fucking horror show of animal sacrifices. This year is especially poignant as high rains have caused some flooding. That flooding mixed with a bunch of backward ass fucking monstrous animal abusers caused the city to literally flood with rivers of blood.  This is just... wow... http://bit.ly/2ddmJ7p

So yeah.

Let’s talk about something that isn’t totally fucked up.

Tim from Atheism 101 sent a correction to last week's episode. What with being a professional in the field and all, apparently it’s super bullshit that Kale has more protein than beef. So… Apparently, that’s what you get for believing a vegan. Also, if you want to learn more actual things you should check out their show at Atheism101podcast.com

Speaking of, because we’re self-absorbed jerks, we’ve been pumping our 100th episode voicemail request without paying any attention to anyone else — so, Matt & Tim, congratulations on your 3 years of podcasting! That’s freaking amazeballs. And as a testament to how awesome the guys at Atheism 101 are, Tim has become a patron member! Which is… I mean, we just figured you were sharing the files — and we’re totally cool with that btw — but yeah thanks!

Now, back to our bullshit.

Speaking of patreon, they’ve set up an RSS feed now. So, patrons get special access to a secure RSS feed that will allow you to add our patron show feed right to your pod-catcher of choice. Which is great, because I can’t imagine a more poorly made app than Patreon.

We got a few voicemails for the 100th episode this week! Thanks to everyone who's sent us something for the 10th — it’s been pretty amazing seeing stuff roll in. If you want to leave us a message for our centennial show too, do so at 513–760–0463 or through SpeakPipe on the site the deadline is October 1.

We also got an iTunes review this week, which is amazing.

Lots of fun!
by: AteistoYYC (Canada)

Been listening for about a year. These folks have a great natural dynamic together. The drinking along with the show is the best idea ever!

As a reminder, if you leave an iTunes review tweet, email or whatever us and we’ll send you a patron cut of the show.


Police officer fired for NOT killing a suspect - http://wapo.st/2ddnNbJ

  • West Virginia officer, Stephen Mader, had a confrontation with pistol wielding suspect during a domestic dispute
  • Mader said, “I saw then he had a gun, but it was not pointed at me,” Mr. Mader recalled, noting the silver handgun was in the man’s right hand, hanging at his side and pointed at the ground.
  • “I told him, ‘Put down the gun,’ and he’s like, ‘Just shoot me.’ And I told him, ‘I’m not going to shoot you brother.’ Then he starts flicking his wrist to get me to react to it,”
  • Mader, feeling that this was a ‘suicide by cop’ attempt decided it better to attempt to de-escalate the situation
  • Unfortunately, soon thereafter, two other cops arrived an killed the suspect who’s gun was unloaded.
  • Soon thereafter, Mader was informed that his contract had been terminated, because by not shooting Williams he had “failed to eliminate a threat”.
  • Oh yeah, and all the cops were white, but the dead man was black.

Ken Hamm, el-douche, lowered attendance estimates for the Ark Encounter - http://bit.ly/2cPlSyF

  • Originally stated that they expected up to 2 million visitors a year
  • A Cincinnati TV station said that around 300,000 people have actually visited with attendance around 4–7000 per day
  • If the current pace continues then they could get around 1.4 Million by the end of the year, provided that attendance doesn’t drop in the winter months
  • More good news too. The “up to $18 mil.” tourism incentive tax break is based on attendance. Fewer visitors, less money

This Week’s Stories

Shea’s Story

Unfortunately, Shea's story had to be trimmed due to time constraints... heh, listen to us using phrases like "time constraints" like we're a real show... anyway, if you want to know what Shea was miming about, you'll have to check out our Patreon page. C'est la vie, eh? ~ A

How to use anointing with oil to cast out demons in Ghana - http://bit.ly/2ddnHkg

Some Anointing Oil Info

Patron Story

PHILADELPHIA: Jesus Found Guilty Of Trespassing After Refusing To Take Giant Cross Out Of Apple Store - http://bit.ly/2cPnjgp

  • Philly Jesus is preaching a message of forgiveness after being found guilty of trespassing stemming from his arrest at a Center City Apple Store earlier this year.
  • “The son of man will triumph over these bogus charges,” said Michael Grant, aka Philly Jesus, ahead of Wednesday morning’s trial.
  • Grant, 30, spent 12 hours behind bars after his May 2 arrest inside the store at 1607 Walnut St. He claims he was lawfully in the store charging his phone since he is an Apple customer. Investigators allege that Grant refused to leave despite being asked three times because a cross he had with him was blocking an aisle. Grant claims the employee that asked him to leave was offended by his appearance and garb.
  • “I’m an Apple customer with an iPhone, on a family plan — Father, Son & Holy Spirit,” said Grant. “Bless up! May the lord have mercy.”
  • “I was found guilty of trespassing but I forgive them for trespassing against me,” said Grant. “For they know not what they do.”

Second Half

Jenn has a quiz. :) How much to YOU know about the world’s major religions?

Next Week’s Beer

The President Beers from Sick and Twisted Brewery in SD

  • Provided by: RW
  • Never tell a lie porter - Washington - Jenn
  • Declaration of IPA - Jefferson - Shea
  • Big Stick Lemon Grass Mint Blend Ale - Roosevelt - Aaron
  • Honest Abe Red Ale - Lincoln - Steve

Faith In Humanity Restored

Happiness and kitten breath. 
Also, I couldn't find the link...

Bonus Cat Video

  • Save The Day - http://bit.ly/2ddnVaT
  • How to Eradicate Malaria - http://bit.ly/2cPnLLz
  • Inside the Smithsonian - http://bit.ly/2ddouBC
  • H. R. Giger’s Beautiful Monster - http://bit.ly/2ddoO3m

Socials & Info

Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 097 - The One Where We Ask You To Send In 100th Episode VoiceMails!

September 16, 2016

In This Week’s Show Italy’s most famous quiver-full burka designer ruins her lesbian marriage by using words and junk… 

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Shitala Devi, goddess of smallpox and disease hasn’t struck us down yet, she is giving Hillary a helluva time and we are trying her patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson
This week I was diagnosed with a certain type of amnesia where I deny the existence of a certain 80’s band, there is no cure…

Jenn’s Actual Lesson
Did you know that almonds and pistachios are the only nuts mentioned in the Bible? The rest of the nuts just believe it’s true.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Easy Livin’ | Crow Peak Brewing
Provided by RW 

  • BA Link: http://bit.ly/2chKZJr
  • BA Rating: –
  • Style: American Pale Ale (APA)
  • ABV: 4.5%
  • Aaron: 7
  • Jenn: 6
  • Shea: 6
  • Steve: 7

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

iTunes Reviews

by: thatcaketho (United States)

Jenn has great eyebrows too.

Fun fun fun!
by: Jekyll Hollow (United States)

A newcomer to this podcast, I am in the process of listening to the back catalog of shows while savoring a Budweiser, since Meisterbrau isn’t available locally anymore. I love to hear witty, funny conversation, and this podcast never disappoints. BTW-Happy Birthday, Jenn!

Their taste is questionable, just like everything else about them
by: Macklebauer (United States)

Of course I would stumble into this podcast during my 9 months of supportive sobriety. Their taste in beer is questionable, but that’s not unusual with this bunch of goons. W4W is a great podcast. If I ever were to create a podcast, it would probably be like this, but not good. Cheers, you weirdos.


Epic new patron Daniel… Rand? 


We got some voicemails from Brewer and friend of the show Chad. Unfortunately, they’re a bit rough so we’ll just say, no worries man, you sounded great and w4w loves your input, now, go drink a glass of water cause… dayum!

And don’t forget, we’re Shows–3 to 100 so we need some listener feedback at 513–760–0463! Seriously, Aaron’s gonna be super sad if we don’t get any voicemails … no one wants to see a Canadian cry…


Italy’s Supreme Court rules public masturbation, not a crime - http://cnn.it/2cbF5Ea

  • Perfectly okay to jack it in public in Italy as long as there aren’t minors present.
  • the case of a 69-year-old man identified only as “PL,” who was caught masturbating in Catania
  • convicted in May 2015 after he performed the act in front of students on the University of Catania campus
  • Public masturbation remains a criminal offense in many other parts of the world

Another conservative TLC star asshole arrested for child rape http://bit.ly/2cbFTsD

  • Toby Willis, of the The Willis Family on TLC was arrested on charges of child rape
  • Another fucking breeder family show that TLC seems to be full of
  • Charges stem from a incident 12 years ago where he allegedly has a “ had a sexual encounter … with an underage female”
  • According to Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, Willis moved to Kentucky in an effort to avoid law enforcement
  • The Willis Family was a show about he, his wife Brenda and their 12 singing, dancing children who were spreading the gospel.
  • Show was already canceled after two 6-episode seasons

Holy in-bred Jed! Oklahoma Woman marries daughter (cut at like 6 min mark) - http://bit.ly/2cbEnHa

  • Patricia Ann Spann (43) married her daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann (25) (let that name sink in a moment) earlier this year.
  • Patricia lost custody of her children years ago (shocker) who were raised by their grandmother
  • Two years ago she reunited with Misty and they “hit it off”
  • Both arrested and face incest charges
  • Best part of the story-Not the first time Patricia has married her offspring. Court records show an annulment between her and her son in 2010 (married in 2008)

This Week’s Stories

Jenn’s Story

Ann Coulter inexplicably made an appearance on Rob Lowe’s Comedy Central Roast. - http://ind.pn/2cbFAya

Aaron’s Story
(Patreon cut only due to time constraints.)

  • ISIS bans women from wearing burkas after chiefs attacked by veiled assassins - http://bit.ly/2cbF57k
  • In a bizarre turn of events, Islamic State fighters are now banning women from wearing burkas in security centres in the northern Iraqi city of Monsul and have declared the full-face veils are now a security risk.
  • Last week, in the occupied Saladin Governorate south of Mosul, IS put out a warning to members to beware of a veiled woman who killed two of their fighters. The attacks happened in Al-Shirqat, which has been under IS control since the extremists overran the region in June 2014.
  • An IS fighter was also attacked in Mosul
  • Sharing details, the source said, “A veiled woman carrying a pistol killed two members of ISIS who were standing in a checkpoint in Sharqat, north of Salah al-Din. The incident surprised the organisation and forced them to issue an alert of similar attacks.”

Patreon Story

Christian Pastor: The Reason Most Marriages Go Bad Is That Women “Believe They Are Equal Partners” - http://bit.ly/2cbEzpH

  • Pastor Chris Oyakhilome the Senior Pastor of Christ Embassy Ministries (a mostly online church, with a few physical locations)

“Husband does not mean the male partner in a marriage, husband means master.

“The reason for most problems in Christian marriages is the fact that women refuses God’s definition of marriage and form theirs. They believe they are equal partners.

“If most women had their fathers bold enough to talk to them, they will be very successful in their marriage and they will be very happy people. Most women have never been taught by their parents, their fathers particularly and that’s their biggest problem because they don’t know who a man is, they think he is another woman.

“Your secret is in obedience, your secret is in listening to your husband, your secret is in doing the things that please him. When you don’t do the things that please him, you take the role of a mother or of an older sister.

“A wise woman will always be an influence to her husband, the foolish one will always annoy the husband, make him mad, make him angry and when you make him angry, you will be the victim. Learn to listen to your husband, practice it, tell yourself that you are going to do it because that is where your beauty is.

“Once you stop listening, your beauty evaporates. You wonder why you are dressing and he can’t see it, he doesn’t remember your last hair style. Beauty is in obedience. That’s where the Glory is.

  • And Oyakhilome would know because he has a successful marriage his wife filed for divorce years ago.


This is a test run of a new segment. Aaron noticed that the crew was talking about stories 

Black metal legend elected to Norwegian town council against his will

  • “My campaign was a picture of me holding my cat saying, ‘Please don’t vote for me.’”
  • Norwegian extreme music legend Fenriz is getting ready to release Arctic Thunder, the new album from his foundational black metal band Darkthrone
  • Now he will be required to serve as Councilman Gylve Fenris Nagell for four years before stepping down is an option.

Alphabet (GOOGL) Teaming Up With Chipotle to Test Burrito Drone Delivery

Italian Politicians Want to Make Raising Vegan Kids a Crime

  • “stigmatize the reckless and dangerous eating behavior imposed by parents” on their children, Savino told La Repubblica.
  • “vegans are thinner, have lower serum cholesterol and blood pressure, and enjoy a lower risk of [cardiovascular disease].”

Pat Robertson: Non-Religious Children Should Be Beaten Until They Respect Christian Beliefs

A Mother Files Criminal Charges After Her Autistic Son’s Mentor Forcibly Baptized Him

Ohio Church allegedly asked 16-year-old girl to apologize to the wife of the youth pastor who sexually assaulted her

Next Week’s Beer

Pliny The Elder | Russian River Brewing Company

Provided by Chad

Faith In Humanity Restored

MEXICO: 12 Year-Old Boy Tries To Block Anti-Gay Marriage March, Tells Press He Has A Gay Uncle - http://bit.ly/2cdJmfr

  • Across Mexico over the weekend, thousands of “pro-family” groups protested against same-sex marriage as the country moves toward marriage equality. In one particular march in Celaya, Guanajuato, a 12-year-old boy was photographed in the middle of the street trying to block the march of 11,000 people from moving forward.
  • Said Rodriguez to Generacion: “At first I thought the child was only playing.”
  • But Rodriguez interviewed the child later, who said, “I have an uncle who is gay and I hate the hatred.”

Bonus Cat Video

People who still don’t get Kaepernick’s protest need to watch this NFL legend’s perfect explanation - http://bit.ly/2cdIrM4

Socials & Info

Drop us a line!

We’d really like to be able to play some listener voicemails on the 100th show so leave us a drunk (or sober, we won’t judge) dial at 513–760–0463!
~ Aaron

Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 096 - The One Where You Join Us For FAC - Fixed

September 9, 2016

In This Week’s Show, We update our Ugandan servers to support Facebook’s new elvish of resurrection plugin.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Galan of Taa hasn’t struck us down yet, we are trying his patience!

Sorry about the mixup everyone, looks like last weeks show was reposted :(

This should be the correct episode, tweet or message us on facebook if it's not! It's a good one this week, enjoy. ~A

Shea’s Life Lesson
This week I learned that the worst thing about owls is the way they maintain eye contact when you put them in a microwave. 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson
Did you know that Mother Theresa was canonized last Sunday? Proving once again that history can have very little to do with facts.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Sierra Nevada Big Foot Barleywine Ale
Suggested by Kyle the Napkin Pope 

  • BA Link: http://bit.ly/2bTXfxc
  • BA Rating: 92
  • Style: Barleywine
  • ABV: 9.6%
  • Aaron: 2
  • Jenn: 1
  • Shea: 1
  • Steve: 2
  • Vice1331: 7

Kyle the Napkin Pope’s take on it:

I took two drinks and poured the rest of the bottle down the drain. I repeat: I poured perfectly good beer down the drain!! (Well, perfectly BAD beer) I think it tastes like rotten orange peels soaked in a mixture of rubbing alcohol with just a hint of pine-sol. I give it a smooth zero; it’s the worst beer I’ve tried so far.

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion

Heartfelt thanks to James and Susan for attempting to ship us James’ favorite beer from Maine. And we are grieved to announce our first beer fatality. But we did manage to get the very SPECIAL present that was included with the beer.

Brock, who rapes people, Turner got out of jail today. Because fuck him, that’s why.

Thanks for the birthday wishes.

Also, it’s Shea’s anniversary so send us some fucking iTunes reviews.

Don’t forget that we’re asking for centennial voicemails at 513–760–0463 or on the website!
Seriously y’all.


Christian Charity That Rejected Huge Donation From Atheists is Now “Extremely Behind on Funds” - http://bit.ly/2c4PrHT

  • Matt Wilbourn, an atheist living in Muskogee, Oklahoma, tried donating $100 to Christian charity in Oklahoma, the Murrow Indian Children’s Home, but his money was rejected by the organization after they learned his contribution was made on behalf of a local atheist organization.
  • Matt decided to be awesome by starting a GoFundMe and raised $28,280 which they also rejected
  • Now we find out that the charity is terribly broke:

To all my amazing friends. As most of you know by now, I am working as the social services rep for the Murrow Indian Children’s Home. We are a faith-based, non-profit organization that relies solely on private donors and our annual Pow WOW. This is our only fundraising event of the year. It will be October 1st, starting at 2:00pm at the Bacone Student Life Center. We are extremely behind on funds and donated items for our silent auction this year. We are also short on vendors. I am asking for y’all to just consider donating something. Anything. 

Christian Pastor: I Resurrected a Dead Woman By “Sending a Text Message Through Facebook” - http://bit.ly/2chKEGE

  • Pastor David E. Taylor of the Missouri-based Joshua Media Ministries International claims brought a dead woman back to life
  • “Raised from the Dead! David E. Taylor Commands Her to Live Through Sending a Text Message Through Facebook — Releasing the Supernatural Resurrection Power of God! She Lives!”
  • Apparently, this magical text message also cured her diabetes too.
  • This dipshit was investigated for financial corruption recently too.

Ugandan Police Arrest 8-Year-Old Girl For “Lesbianism” | NewNowNext - http://logo.to/2c4QHec

  • Jinja Police Child Family Protection, based in the eastern part of the country, states that they apprehended the girl because she was seeking “romantic relationships” with other girls her age.
  • a neighbor spied on the young girl as she repeatedly “lured” friends to a farm near her house. Once there, the neighbor claims that she and her friends would engage in inappropriate behavior with one another.
  • Officials are now scrutinizing the adults in the girl’s life to see if they might have influenced her decision to engage in these “illicit relationships.”
  • Ugandan government voted down a measure that would have made homosexuality punishable by death, current law still holds that anyone found engaging in sexual activities with members of the same sex could face life imprisonment.

This Week’s Stories

Patreon Stories

In Oklahoma City, a Mother Allegedly Used a Crucifix to Brutally Kill Her “Possessed” Daughter - http://bit.ly/2chKr6l

  • Oklahoma City, 49-year-old Juanita Gomez is behind bars after allegedly killing her daughter, 33-year-old Geneva Gomez, over the weekend
  • According to court documents, officers arrived at the home and found 33-year-old Geneva Gomez lying on the floor with a large crucifix on her chest.
  • “Blood was visible, and she had suffered severe trauma to her head and face,” the documents state.
  • Geneva was pronounced dead at the scene.
  • Juanita, Geneva’s mother, told investigators Geneva “was possessed by the devil.”
  • Court documents claim she admitted to punching Geneva repeatedly
  • “and forced a crucifix and religious medallion down her throat until blood came out of her daughter’s mouth. Juanita saw her daughter die and then placed her body in the shape of a cross.”

But how does that help us catch Moose and Squirrel? 

Jazmine Howarth died after ‘hanging herself in a bid to say goodbye to dead best friend’ - http://dailym.ai/2chLh2X

  • Jazmine Howarth died two weeks after her best friend Dionne Corbett
  • Ms. Howarth wrote letters saying she wanted to meet friend ‘one last time’
  • Her fiance found her hanged, but there were no signs she was intending to take her own life, inquest told
  • Coroner records Ms. Howarth’s death was down to misadventure

‘The letter to her mom indicated that whatever she intended to do she thought she could control it. She was very much planning for the funeral, she was looking at reading, planning for that. I know nobody ever expects it but we weren’t - it wasn’t even on our radar.’

  • Ms. Howarth’s fiance Brendan Cawley told the inquest: ’They classed each other as sisters, one wouldn’t do without the other. She broke down crying saying, “yeah but I promised I would go and get her”.

‘She said that she wanted to go and see her, go halfway to make sure she was alright. Two days before she died I woke up in the middle of the night and looked at Jazmine, she was writing on a piece of paper, I said: “what are you doing”. She said, “nothing it’s stupid”. I thought in my head that it must be something to do with Dionne.’

Aaron’s Story

Iceland’s Government Will Uncover an Enchanted Rock to Appease the Elves. (Seriously.) - http://bit.ly/2chLAKZ

  • In Iceland, where more than half the population believes that elves are at least possibly real and a quarter of the country says they’re probably or certainly real, the superstition is having an effect on construction projects.
  • Because of a 2012 law to “protect Iceland’s elfin heritage,” the Iceland Road Administration is going to fix a situation in which a company that removed debris following a landslide accidentally covered up an enchanted rock.
  • Sveinn Zophoniasson, who works for the Bass road construction company, told the paper that his woes began in August 2015 in Siglufjordur, close to the site of the so-called “elfin lady stone” that was covered with earth following efforts to clear a mudslide from a highway.
  • After the landslide was cleared, the road was subsequently flooded and a colleague of Zophoniasson who came to clear the route was injured. Then industrial machinery began to fail and a journalist who came to cover the growing chaos fell into a mud pool and had to be pulled to safety.
  • “Nobody even thought of the rock,” even though the area is regarded as a sacred place in local folklore, said Zophoniasson.

Jenn’s Story

World’s oldest fossil discovered 4 yrs ago in Greenland - http://nyti.ms/2chKRcK

World’s oldest fossil discovered 4 yrs ago in Greenland, just made known to the world. Scientists feel confident it’s 3.7 billion years old. That’s less than a billion years younger than the time that Earth is said to have formed, 4.6 billion years ago, and 220 million years older than the fossils previously regarded to be the world’s most ancient.

Some scientists are skeptical about the news, as the Earth’s conditions would have been hellish and inhospitable 3.7 billion years ago. However, the fossils that were retrieved from Issue in Greenland have certain formations which are apparently indicators of microscopic organisms known as filthy-stromatolites. 

If the new date proves true, then it could mean that life is able to survive in harsher conditions than previously believed, and thus the chance of life existing on other less hospitable worlds, such as Mars, becomes a great deal larger.

Next Week’s Beer

Easy Livin’ | Crow Peak Brewing 

Faith In Humanity Restored

Bill Nye ‘The Science Guy’ is getting a new Netflix show. This is not a drill.

The Science Guy is coming back to TV in 2017 with a new series called “Bill Nye Saves the World.” - http://wapo.st/2chL1kq

Bonus Cat Video

Origins Of The Comic Book Font - http://bit.ly/2chL3c4

Join The Discussion

We’d love to hear from you!

To comment on a show or suggest a brew visit our web, twitter or Facebook pages. As always, we’d love to get a good rating on iTunes or Stitcher!

  • Twitter: @4Wrath
  • Facebook: Facebook.com/Waiting4Wrath
  • Web: Waiting4Wrath.com
  • Patreon: http://Patreon.com/W4W
  • iTunes: http://bit.ly/wrathTunes
  • Google Play: http://bit.ly/1VEhtx2
  • Stitcher: http://bit.ly/wrathStitch
  • Voicemail: (513) 760–0463

Waiting 4 Wrath - Episode 095 - The One Where Aaron Can’t Not Speak Of Things

September 2, 2016

In This Week’s Show Steve leaves the show to voip ultra-orthodox oil anointers to benefit Priests with IUDs.

Now, grab a beer and help us test the god hypothesis — because, while Father Time isn’t here with us today we are trying his patience!

Shea’s Life Lesson

This week I learned that the Amish have much lower rates of cyber-bullying 

Jenn’s Actual Lesson

In honor of the Cider Circus 3 out of 4 full-time W4W host attended this weekend: Did you know that the Puritans did not abstain from alcohol, but enjoyed both fermented ciders and ales?

In This Week’s Show Steve leaves the show to VOIP ultra-orthodox oil anointers to benefit Priests with IUDs.

But before we get to all that, let’s have a beer!

This Week’s Beer

Big Bad Baptist | Epic Brewing Company

Recommended by our guest next week, Felicia of Utah Outcasts

This Week’s Show

Round Table Discussion


Another donation from Ken! Hope that cause of baldness gets sorted out…

We appreciate it. As a reminder, we reply to Paypal donates with the current weeks Patreon link, so if you want an extended show but aren’t down with the Patreon, that’s probably the best way to go!

As always we appreciate your donations!

They’ve helped us improve out kit and now, with a little luck, make it to ReasonCon. Patrons get at least a unique story but often 15 to 20 minutes more show so check it out. As a reminder to some patrons, check your payment settings - if you haven’t been getting shows it might be because your card info needs to be updated. We’ve got a few folks who, it seems, haven’t received a show in a few months so take a look at that eh.

We also need to thank and welcome new patron Felicia to the show! Thanks for supporting what we do and welcome to Waiting 4 Wrath.

Matt 101 Birthday! Find out how he spent it at Atheism101Podcast.com

Jim's Birthday!

Gene Wilder Dies at the age of 83, he will be sorely missed… http://bit.ly/2bTXjwO

A quick follow-up to the French Burkini story: It appears Frances’ highest court has overturned the cities’ ruling that forbid the swimwear.

iTunes Reviews

Love it - 5 stars
by: Reeser978 (United States)

All of the host are great and I love to hear the different views on news stories. Jenn is the BEST!!! 🍻 Cheers

No new voicemails or e-mails. Leave us one at voicemail: (513) 760–0463

Steve is out and Jim is out and proud… but also out.


UTAH: Lawyer For Escaped Polygamous Cult Leader Tells Court He Might Have Experienced “Miracle Of Rapture”http://bit.ly/2byZ5qj

  • Polygamist leader Lyle Jeffs may not have escaped from home confinement, but was instead kidnapped or “experienced the miracle of rapture,” his lawyer raises as a possibility in a new court filing.

“As this Court is well aware, Mr. Jeffs is currently not available to inform his counsel whether or not he agrees to the Continuance. Whether his absence is based on absconding, as oft alleged by the Government in their filings, or whether he was taken and secreted against his will, or whether he experienced the miracle of rapture is unknown to counsel,” Kathryn Nester wrote. “However, his absence prevents counsel from obtaining his approval and thus further prevents counsel from filing a joinder with the Motion to Continue Current Trial Date in compliance with the local rules.” 

  • Jeffs, who has been on the lam since early June, is accused of defrauding the SNAP program to the tune of $11M, some of which was used to buy luxury cars for Mormon Jesus

Ultra-Orthodox Rabbis Ban Women from Going To College and Getting a “Dangerous” Secular Educationhttp://bit.ly/2bTX6cP

  • Satmar sect are banning women from obtaining university degrees because “It is dangerous.” Written in Yiddish, the decree warns: “It has lately become the new trend that girls and married women are pursuing degrees in special education. Some attend classes and others online. And so we’d like to let their parents know that it is against the Torah.

“We will be very strict about this. No girls attending our school are allowed to study and get a degree. It is dangerous. Girls who will not abide will be forced to leave our school. Also, we will not give any jobs or teaching position in the school to girls who’ve been to college or have a degree.

“We have to keep our school safe and we can’t allow any secular influences in our holy environment. It is against the base upon which our Mosed was built.”

Christian who was fired after ‘anointing’ co-workers’ desks with oil loses religious discrimination case – http://bit.ly/2bTX8Sf

  • According to the Miami New Times, around 2 years ago, employees at the City of Miami’s Capital Improvements Program came to work and found cross-shaped oil smears all over their desks, “walls, doorways, and cubicles” – prompting authorities to shut down the department and investigate. Eventually, it was discovered that employee Eric Cheeley was the culprit. Cheeley, an enthusiastic Pentecostal Christian, was “anointing the office with oil” as a blessing.
  • Cheeley was already out in the field when his co-workers arrived at the office. They were a bit freaked out. One employee thought the crosses represented Santería; others worried it was some sort of workplace threat. Before long, police were called to investigate, and the office shut down for the better part of the morning. Back at work around lunchtime, Cheeley tried to explain what had happened.

“[I] was sitting in my cubicle crying; I thought I heard what, in my opinion, God telling me: ‘Look, just bless the department… and go on about your business,’”

  • He told police according to the Times.
  • The next day he was fired.
  • This month, after a long court battle where Cheeley claimed religious discrimination, the judge ruled that there was no discrimination, only vandalism on the part of Cheeley.

“Cheeley’s application of the oily substance caused actual damage to his employer’s property and disrupted its business,” U.S. District Judge Robert Scola Jr. wrote in his decision. “These facts are undisputed‘’

This Week’s Stories

Paton Story: Catholic hospital turns away woman with bleeding IUD because birth control is a sin – http://bit.ly/2bTXQyF

  • When Melanie Jones sought medical care to treat a bleeding dislodged IUD, she didn’t expect to be turned away by her health providers
  • Unbeknownst to Jones, Illinois’ Mercy Hospital and Medical Center takes their Catholic beliefs very seriously, and since using birth control is frowned upon by the Catholic Church, so is giving Jones the care she needs.

"It felt heartbreaking,” Jones told Rewire. “It felt like they were telling me that I had done something wrong, that I had made a mistake and therefore they were not going to help me; that they stigmatized me, saying that I was doing something wrong, when I’m not doing anything wrong. I’m doing something that’s well within my legal rights.” 

“I think my first feeling was shock,” Jones added. “I thought that eventually they were going to recognize that my health was the top priority.”

  • Jones left her doctor’s office, still in pain and bleeding. Her options were limited. She couldn’t afford a $1,000 trip to the emergency room, and an urgent care facility was out of the question since her Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois insurance policy would only cover treatment within her network—and she had just been told that her entire network followed Catholic restrictions.

“Generally, our protocol in caring for a woman with a dislodged or troublesome IUD is to offer to remove it,” Mercy Hospital said in a written statement.

Second Half Talk

Discussion with Felecia, co-host on Utah Outcasts and President of Atheists of Utah.

Find Felicia on PodHell Media at…

And working for all of us with The Atheists of Utah

Next Week’s Beer

Sierra Nevada Big Foot Barleywine Ale
Suggested by Kyle the Napkin Pope

Faith In Humanity Restored

Orlando hospitals: Pulse nightclub shooting victims will be treated free of charge – http://bit.ly/2byZw3K

Bonus Cat Video

A Tribute To Gene Wilder - http://bit.ly/2bAnn1R

Join The Discussion

We’d love to hear from you!

To comment on a show or suggest a brew visit our web, twitter or Facebook pages. As always, we’d love to get a good rating on iTunes or Stitcher!